Comments on: Shh . . . Don’t Tell Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Who Is Also Reponsible For Punk Rock http://www.brunoandtheprofessor.com/2006/12/shh_dont_tell-4.php Bruno and the Professor is a progressive, liberal weekly talk radio podcast covering issues from Seattle, the United States, and the World Sun, 07 Mar 2010 22:10:22 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: G-D http://www.brunoandtheprofessor.com/2006/12/shh_dont_tell-4.php/comment-page-1#comment-462 G-D Thu, 04 Jan 2007 19:22:00 +0000 http://www.brunoandtheprofessor.com/2006/12/shh_dont_tell-4.php#comment-462 Why Hell sees Beeber as sleazy or self-serving takes greater powers of perception than my own. Beeber gave Hell numerous opportunities to go on the record regarding his feelings about his background, but Hell refused for the reasons discussed in Beeber's book (namely that Hell felt anyone who referred to him as a "Jew" was co-opting his identity for their own purposes). Beeber did not in turn try to make Hell out to be a self-hating Jew. He described Hell as a deeply complicated artist who may have been affected by many aspects of his past, one of them perhaps being his having been raised by a father who was born Jewish. Beeber did not discuss Judaism as a religion, but rather Jewishness as a culture; much in the same manner that one might discuss Hell's Southerness as part of his cultural makeup. Furthermore, Hell did not pre-empt Beeber's ideas by publishing a column on his feelings about his Jewishness last Christmas. Beeber had already repeatedly tried to interview Hell for two years by that point and was in the midst of editing the final proofs of his book. The fact that he did not see that Hell had published a brief reference to his Jewishness at that time is no fault of Beeber's -- and it has little if any bearing on the questions he raises in his book. As far as I can tell, Hell was mostly angry that Beeber had interviewed others who knew him -- something that any conscientious reporter intent on exploring the full story would have done -- and something that Beeber had clearly told Hell he would be doing. There was absolutely nothing sleazy or disreputable about that, and if Hell weren't so busy looking for insults, he might see that what Beeber wrote about him is very flattering in almost every respect. Why Hell sees Beeber as sleazy or self-serving takes greater powers of perception than my own. Beeber gave Hell numerous opportunities to go on the record regarding his feelings about his background, but Hell refused for the reasons discussed in Beeber’s book (namely that Hell felt anyone who referred to him as a “Jew” was co-opting his identity for their own purposes). Beeber did not in turn try to make Hell out to be a self-hating Jew. He described Hell as a deeply complicated artist who may have been affected by many aspects of his past, one of them perhaps being his having been raised by a father who was born Jewish. Beeber did not discuss Judaism as a religion, but rather Jewishness as a culture; much in the same manner that one might discuss Hell’s Southerness as part of his cultural makeup. Furthermore, Hell did not pre-empt Beeber’s ideas by publishing a column on his feelings about his Jewishness last Christmas. Beeber had already repeatedly tried to interview Hell for two years by that point and was in the midst of editing the final proofs of his book. The fact that he did not see that Hell had published a brief reference to his Jewishness at that time is no fault of Beeber’s — and it has little if any bearing on the questions he raises in his book. As far as I can tell, Hell was mostly angry that Beeber had interviewed others who knew him — something that any conscientious reporter intent on exploring the full story would have done — and something that Beeber had clearly told Hell he would be doing. There was absolutely nothing sleazy or disreputable about that, and if Hell weren’t so busy looking for insults, he might see that what Beeber wrote about him is very flattering in almost every respect.

]]> By: philosopher http://www.brunoandtheprofessor.com/2006/12/shh_dont_tell-4.php/comment-page-1#comment-458 philosopher Sat, 30 Dec 2006 20:30:47 +0000 http://www.brunoandtheprofessor.com/2006/12/shh_dont_tell-4.php#comment-458 It's obvious to anyone with any powers of perception who reads Beeber's book that he has no integrity. He may be a Jew but that doesn't mean he can't be a deviously self-serving deceiver. Hell does not hide his ethnic background. You can read at http://www.richardhell.com/TP.html#xmas a newspaper column Hell published over a year ago where he describes it (and actually pre-empts Beeber's obvious linking of atheism/Communism with '30s Jews). Hell's first book (WANNA GO OUT by Theresa Stern)described its author as having a Jewish father, and the protagonist of his first novel (GO NOW) is named Bernhardt. Hell just didn't like or trust Beeber so he chose not to participate in his project. Hell had every right to do that. Beeber of course made him pay by portraying him as a "self-hating Jew." Typical sleazy journalist tactic. It’s obvious to anyone with any powers of perception who reads Beeber’s book that he has no integrity. He may be a Jew but that doesn’t mean he can’t be a deviously self-serving deceiver. Hell does not hide his ethnic background. You can read at http://www.richardhell.com/TP.html#xmas a newspaper column Hell published over a year ago where he describes it (and actually pre-empts Beeber’s obvious linking of atheism/Communism with ’30s Jews). Hell’s first book (WANNA GO OUT by Theresa Stern)described its author as having a Jewish father, and the protagonist of his first novel (GO NOW) is named Bernhardt. Hell just didn’t like or trust Beeber so he chose not to participate in his project. Hell had every right to do that. Beeber of course made him pay by portraying him as a “self-hating Jew.” Typical sleazy journalist tactic.

]]> By: Right Truth http://www.brunoandtheprofessor.com/2006/12/shh_dont_tell-4.php/comment-page-1#comment-456 Right Truth Fri, 29 Dec 2006 22:30:13 +0000 http://www.brunoandtheprofessor.com/2006/12/shh_dont_tell-4.php#comment-456 <strong>A Fresh Start...</strong> We all wish for fresh starts, new beginnings, or maybe just 'do overs'. The thought of a new year bringing changes to the status-quo puts a little pep in our walk, a little smile on our faces. We think back... A Fresh Start…

We all wish for fresh starts, new beginnings, or maybe just ‘do overs’. The thought of a new year bringing changes to the status-quo puts a little pep in our walk, a little smile on our faces. We think back…

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