Comments on: Episode 268 http://www.brunoandtheprofessor.com/2006/10/episode_268.php Bruno and the Professor is a progressive, liberal weekly talk radio podcast covering issues from Seattle, the United States, and the World Mon, 12 Jul 2010 03:39:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Matski http://www.brunoandtheprofessor.com/2006/10/episode_268.php/comment-page-1#comment-283 Matski Thu, 26 Oct 2006 23:28:41 +0000 http://www.brunoandtheprofessor.com/2006/10/episode_268.php#comment-283 Fred -- good point. In a previous episode (a few weeks ago ... can't remember which off hand [true, but also shameless plugging to get you to listen to other eps :) ]), we talk quite a bit about "Azatlan", as in Movemiento Estudiantil Chicano de Azatlan (MECHA), or the name that some of our south of the border neighbors give to the territories we conquered from them in the 19th century. Apologies if I've butchered any of those spellings, but, yes, we totally agree with you. Fred — good point. In a previous episode (a few weeks ago … can’t remember which off hand [true, but also shameless plugging to get you to listen to other eps :) ]), we talk quite a bit about “Azatlan”, as in Movemiento Estudiantil Chicano de Azatlan (MECHA), or the name that some of our south of the border neighbors give to the territories we conquered from them in the 19th century. Apologies if I’ve butchered any of those spellings, but, yes, we totally agree with you.

]]> By: Fred http://www.brunoandtheprofessor.com/2006/10/episode_268.php/comment-page-1#comment-282 Fred Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:41:31 +0000 http://www.brunoandtheprofessor.com/2006/10/episode_268.php#comment-282 Very interesting discussion about the undocumented Mexican immigrant situation. Something that is left out of the typical American's frame of reference when talking about this is history. The history is about the conquest of the northern half of Mexico. This piece of real estate includes seven Western states. The process was started before the 1848 Conquest when a bunch of illegal aliens who spoke English crossed the Mexican border. In our history books they are called pioneers. But, then, the victors get to write the history. :-) So now we have a "Mexican Problem." Yeah, like the British have an Irish problem. Or Israel has an Arab problem. :-) When Americans learn some history on this it will reset the whole frame of reference on this debate. Maybe they will come down off their high horse. Very interesting discussion about the undocumented Mexican immigrant situation.

Something that is left out of the typical American’s frame of reference when talking about this is history.

The history is about the conquest of the northern half of Mexico. This piece of real estate includes seven Western states. The process was started before the
1848 Conquest when a bunch of illegal aliens who spoke English crossed the
Mexican border. In our history books they are called pioneers. But, then, the
victors get to write the history. :-)

So now we have a “Mexican Problem.” Yeah, like the British have an Irish problem. Or Israel has an Arab problem. :-)

When Americans learn some history on this it will reset the whole frame of
reference on this debate. Maybe they will come down off their high horse.

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